/That's real life. Game Rules Paladin Spells Rules Answers: October 2017. And is under the blind condition they are not at disadvantage as long as their target is within their blindsight radius.Do you have any source supporting this opinion? The intent is that yes, using blindsight counts as seeing something even though you're not using regular vision.
As you mentioned yourself earlier, Bats are not blind and would therefore not suffer from the Blinded condition if they get Deafened. I would say the same goes for here. Sage Advice returns with a collection of rules references to help your D&D games run more smoothly. Artificer Order History
— Poljack (@Poljack) June 17, 2016 You can't hide from a creature if you're in its blindsight radius, unless magic cloaks your presence entirely. One Grung Above Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide But if you get affected by a spell such as Blinded creatures cannot see. The 5e blindsight rule is rather vague. You can blind a bat, and during the day he won't be able to see you, true, but then he can rely on echolocation to figure out where you are. I've seen a thread floating around somewhere talking about this a bit. Sorcerer Spells If you are hidden--both unseen and unheard--when you make an attack, you give away your location when the attack hits or misses.I do agree that the Rogue cannot be surprised by someone he/she has heard thoughTo my understanding the hearing and seeing are close to the same, the rogue knows something is there, he is prepared and not surprised, so no advantage.
View All Bats have an echolocation trait that when deafened they cannot use blindsight. For the most part blindsight is going to be the same as normal sight, except you are literally limited to your range. Sleeping Dragon's Wake Frozen Sick Rise of Tiamat My Characters I'm curious what you're exactly arguing about with your DM, assuming you're not the DM to bring this up. Paladin Rrakkma Fighter
Adventures However I agree that if a Bat was in a heavily obscured area and was Deafened, it would effectively become Blinded as most other creatures would.On blindsense, it really stops them from being able to surprise the rogue. (Don't recall the name or anything) It talked about how the concept of playing a blind character would be fun but mechanic wise sucks.The bat also wouldn't suffer from a blind condition but rather a deafened condition, I believe.Being Deafened would only count as being Blinded if I was relying on my hearing for my Blindsight ability and was otherwise Blind. Unless they are in a heavily obscured area. The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon.Also the bottom paragraph of the Unseen Attackers and Targets that you mentioned is referring to the fact that you give away your location when you make an attack while hidden.That doesn't mean that you are prepared for the attack when it does happen.Now that I am at home and able to do some googling. This is true whether you're guessing the target's location or you're targeting a creature you can hear but not see. Forums Infernal Machine Rebuild Quarantine Resources And even if we for some reason argue that the creature did not specifically suffer from the Blinded effect because it is not explicitly stated in RAW, it is very clearly written in the Unseen Attackers and Targets section that "when you attack a target that you can't see, you have disadvantage on the attack roll":Combatants often try to escape their foes' notice by hiding, casting the invisibility spell, or lurking in darkness.When you attack a target that you can't see, you have disadvantage on the attack roll. As I understand it, Blindsight does grant the same mechanical benefits as normal vision as it "can perceive its surroundings without relying on sight". Vehicles
If you are hidden--both unseen and unheard--when you make an attack, you give away your location when the attack hits or misses.Taking this section into consideration, we have three RAW sections mentioning that a creature that cannot see (Blinded or otherwise) has disadvantage on attack rolls and is more receptive to enemy attack rolls. Why wouldn't they get advantage on their attack roll and get their sneak attack? Of the rogue (ally to the swashbuckler not the rogue) or there is another enemy currently threatening the rogue.As for the bat, since we have two different conversations going here lol.